Deleted_User Posted February 9, 2009 Author Posted February 9, 2009 Lets go with Neil's route Neil, are you joining us on the run? if you aren't planning on joining us can you suggest members who know the route well and can lead 3 maybe 4 groups
Neil Posted February 9, 2009 Posted February 9, 2009 Looks like I've let myself in for this one I'll probably be joining you, but as a pax with someone..... it is a Lotus club after all I'm not sure who else may know the route - last time GCCK, GreyKnight and MartinR let the three groups, but IIRC at least one group got completely lost! I've got some pretty good route instructions that can be tidied up and possibly even a tomtom itinery file of the route. I might even re-run the route one evening/weekend to bring the notes up to date if this bloody snow clears up. I'll dig out the files once the nipper has gone to bed.
Chorlton Posted February 9, 2009 Posted February 9, 2009 All the files appear to be in the search history, search for 'hinckley' in events and its near the top. If we can sort out the itn files I can lead a pootle group if required.
JonS Posted February 9, 2009 Posted February 9, 2009 Once the route is verified we will need to send a copy to the MSA, which I can sort out if you like. There is also the fee of £18 (as it was last year when I did the Brecons Run) maybe we could ask for a £1 or £2 donation for each car or member in attendance to cover this and also to put a bit of cash into the club funds?
nick_j007 Posted February 9, 2009 Posted February 9, 2009 Got it in my diary. (Can I set to have auto notification of new posts in this section?..how?) Thanks! Nick
Deleted_User Posted February 9, 2009 Author Posted February 9, 2009 (Can I set to have auto notification of new posts in this section?..how?) Thanks! Nick Top right hand corner of the topic title bar you will see 'Options' click this followed by "Track Topic"
Neil Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 Sorry, I didn't get a chance to sort anything out last night, althought it looks like you've found the files from last time. They will need updating before submitting them to the MSA, I'll try to get this done this week. Jon - I think there was a £2 donation per car last time to cover the MSA fee's with the remainder going to MLOC. If it's to be MSA approved it'll need to be posted on SELOC as well, but I'll PM someone about that later (any takers?)
Deleted_User Posted February 10, 2009 Author Posted February 10, 2009 Laura has offered to do the 'admin' work for this, I'm sure she will collect the money on the day
JonS Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 If no one has any objections, I can do all the MSA side of things including SELOC cross-posting. Give me something to do on my own down here [points to Chichester]
Deleted_User Posted February 10, 2009 Author Posted February 10, 2009 If no one has any objections, I can do all the MSA side of things including SELOC cross-posting. Give me something to do on my own down here [points to Chichester] Much appreciated Jon, however.. don't cross post on SELOC I really want to keep this to us MLOC'ers
Neil Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 Unfortunatley MLOC cannot organise MSA approved runs without SELOC assistance.
Deleted_User Posted February 10, 2009 Author Posted February 10, 2009 Hang on a minute, tell me again why we must have MSA approval (without opening a can of worms) We are all insured, all pay road tax, if one of us crashes into a member of the public surely its that individuals responsibility. What is covered that is not already covered by personal insurance.
Chorlton Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 I think it becomes classed as a road rally as such.. and unless you get MSA cover your insurance could be iffy. something like that I think.
steve-n Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 i got the MSA licence for the Lakes Weekend without asking for SELOC assistance, you just put down on the form SELOC as the main "club" and "MLOC" as the sister club. MSA didnt return it, so it was okay.
JonS Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 As said above, becuase it is an organised 'tour' you need to get an certificate of exemption to allows us to have an un-marshalled event on a particular route. It is an insurance poilicy effectively against complaints/accidents, and if we get objections to the number of cars gathering for example then it's almost like a permission slip getting you out of PE at school! The MSA require 4 weeks notice of the event and need to see and approve the route and approx number of participants. All participants must be a member of an MSA recognised club, hence SELOC comping into it and hence (as I understand) one of the reasons SELOC became a limited company. It's is really just a cover, after the brecons run I didnt have to send off the attendance forms so it shouldnt really matter if people only have an MLOC username and not a SELOC one. As I'm a paid up member I can 'organise' events on SELOC with MSA certification. Does that make sense to anyone? Edit: Incidentally, the fee for 2009 is £19. Not much to pay for piece of mind.
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