Lithopsian Posted March 6 Posted March 6 Is your oil pump leaking? Is the oil filter really different? Or did we decide your original engine is from a 111S which has an oil cooler, that would have a different oil filter housing. Quote
William D8on Posted March 7 Author Posted March 7 It has got an oil cooler. But not sure if the setup of the MGTF 160 and 111S has the same config. Any pictures off 111S setup welcome Ill go google. Quote
William D8on Posted March 7 Author Posted March 7 Just got this of a Video of a S1 111S oild change It Does look very similar to what i on the MGTF Dont know if I am having a perspective issue. I know the motor from below from doing oil changes, and from above. But it can look a bit different when its on the garrage floor... Quote
William D8on Posted March 7 Author Posted March 7 Also noting the wrap on the exhaust. Is this really needed? is it to dtop heat going into the sump and the undertrays? Quote
William D8on Posted March 7 Author Posted March 7 Baffled sump https://www.elise-spares.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=133 vs Windage plate https://qedmotorsport.co.uk/product/windage-plate/ I will track the car. can you run both? if only 1 which would you go for? Quote
DeanB Posted March 10 Posted March 10 I'm pretty sure a baffled sump isn't necessary on a K series car. I don't have one and have tracked mine a bit. I'd ask Lithopsian though! If it helps, when I put a replacement second hand engine in my car I had Gav put a new mls head gasket on - no head skim and no new type oil rail. 20k miles later it's absolutely fine. He also put a new water pump, cam belt and tensioner and head bolts on. Plus oil, filter and plugs of course. Oh, and a new clutch. They aren't that dear so seemed daft not to. I kinda wished I'd put a lightened flywheel on too for quicker blips when heeling and toeing but they are expensive... I left the 'new' alternator on the engine and kept my old one as a spare which I haven't needed yet. I wonder about your old gearbox. They are very robust so I'd be surprised if it's knackered. I have Redline MT70 oil in.mine and the change is good. Could it be linkages and cables that are knackered/needed adjusting? I would keep the ratios from the box that came standard in your 120 bhp car as the ratios are nice and close. It does about 20 mph per 1000 revs in top so it's quite busy but if you're not doing much touring it's fine. It's what I have. 1 Quote
DeanB Posted March 10 Posted March 10 Btw Elise Spares are cheaper than EliseParts for clutches. You don't need an uprated one on a 160 bhp engine. Quote
collieek Posted March 11 Posted March 11 (edited) On 07/03/2026 at 06:46, William D8on said: Also noting the wrap on the exhaust. Is this really needed? is it to dtop heat going into the sump and the undertrays? The oil filter looks to be in the same position as the one I have with an oil cooler. Exhaust wrap will help the alt last longer and keep the temps down in the engine compartment. I also continue the heat wrap down to the flexi to protect the drive shaft boot actually made a shield from nimbus to go over the exhaust at this point as a boot split on the way to Le Mans and caught fire. Edited March 11 by collieek nn 1 Quote
Lithopsian Posted March 11 Posted March 11 Some people run baffled sumps. Probably only necessary for the track and then perhaps only if you are running semi-slicks. Don't think I know anyone with a windage plate. Perhaps not enough space with sump baffles, or maybe not enough power in a K-series? Another reason to wrap the exhaust is to keep the exhaust system hot and get better airflow. Not sure how much difference that really makes on these engines. Maybe useful with the higher revs you're going to be able to pull? Of course there are other improvements to the breathing you can make on the intake side, or even taking the engine apart and doing some porting. Nasty stuff to work with, although some newer products are supposed to be kinder on your skin. 1 Quote
collieek Posted March 12 Posted March 12 15 hours ago, Lithopsian said: Some people run baffled sumps. Probably only necessary for the track and then perhaps only if you are running semi-slicks. Don't think I know anyone with a windage plate. Perhaps not enough space with sump baffles, or maybe not enough power in a K-series? Another reason to wrap the exhaust is to keep the exhaust system hot and get better airflow. Not sure how much difference that really makes on these engines. Maybe useful with the higher revs you're going to be able to pull? Of course there are other improvements to the breathing you can make on the intake side, or even taking the engine apart and doing some porting. Nasty stuff to work with, although some newer products are supposed to be kinder on your skin. I soak the wrap first seems to keep the material together and helps get a tighter fit around the exhaust. 1 Quote
William D8on Posted March 13 Author Posted March 13 On 12/03/2026 at 07:14, collieek said: I soak the wrap first seems to keep the material together and helps get a tighter fit around the exhaust. what is the wrap called, where do you get it from, what do you soak it in? Quote
William D8on Posted March 13 Author Posted March 13 Hello All Updates I have been spending money. Loads of money... (No bosting, Cringing) and some cleaning. Whats decided, I am using the MGTF 160 gearbox and not changing the clutch. I am not changing the head gasket, it looks MLS and seems to be fine. If things are easy to access in the car its not coming off I am chaning temprature an pressure sensors, and crank case sensors. I am changing the alternator (Because the one on there isn't feeling smooth (I wish I hadn't spent so much time cleaning it) I am changing the oil pump, water pump, timing belts, altenator belt, gear box seals, crank seal and all the hoases. I am also putting in a new throttle cable (as the one in there at the moment has had its plastic shield melted off because of a leaky exhaust blowing on it) I am changing oil filter, fuel filter, spark plugs. obviousley I am changing gaskets where required. For now I need to make another large order of over £300 to get the last bits. Kind of means I cannot start building her up this weekend. So what can I do. Look at wiring. look at what needs to be done to use the MGTF harness on the lotus. Repinning? changing plugs? not really sure what this means yet. I am also not sure if I need everything. The lotus doesn have the same gauges as the MGTF, so do I need all the sensors connected? do I need to make an effort to fit oil pressure / temprature gauges? (That could be done at another point in time.) As always comments and experiance apreciated. Quote
collieek Posted March 14 Posted March 14 8 hours ago, William D8on said: what is the wrap called, where do you get it from, what do you soak it in? Just soak it in water, you can get it from Demon tweaks Merlin motorsport e bay lots of places. There are also different types, some that need a coat of HT paint others you can leave. I also use metal tie wraps to hold it on. You can get a tool that tightens the metal tie wraps as well. Quote
William D8on Posted March 15 Author Posted March 15 On 14/03/2026 at 06:16, collieek said: Just soak it in water, you can get it from Demon tweaks Merlin motorsport e bay lots of places. There are also different types, some that need a coat of HT paint others you can leave. I also use metal tie wraps to hold it on. You can get a tool that tightens the metal tie wraps as well. ordered Quote
William D8on Posted March 18 Author Posted March 18 (edited) you lads use QED much? Pondering one of there light weight Flywheels... Edited March 23 by William D8on Quote
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