Howard Posted February 14, 2006 Posted February 14, 2006 Can anyone elucidate causes and avoidance off the above, cos it sure caught me out spinning 180 at 30 miles an hour. Looked good though no damage. The guy who was following at the time really looked shocked when I was heading back at him down the wrong way on a dual carriageway.
gerags Posted February 14, 2006 Posted February 14, 2006 Lift off before you turn into the corner or don't lift off at all.
Steve J Posted February 14, 2006 Posted February 14, 2006 Reducing speed whilst turning throws the weight forward. With the car's bias of weight at the rear of the car the heavier rear end wants to go faster than the lighter front. If this overcomes the grip of the rear tyres then you get lift-off oversteer. Don't upset the car round a bend by backing off the throttle. Keep a constant throttle and you'll go round quicker without breaking traction. Or Throw into bend, lift off throttle, dial oposite lock as start to slide, bury the throttle and have fun power sliding.
Howard Posted February 14, 2006 Author Posted February 14, 2006 I would have been happy if the back end broke right on a left hand bend but to go left. Perhaps its Walshytime!!!!
malbon Posted February 14, 2006 Posted February 14, 2006 you dont want to me lifting off in an elise - on the road - especially in the wet. as steve said for the explanation. choose your minimum speed and stick to it for the corner. its fine to choose a faster speed mid corner and on exit but never de-celerate. The more you learn this the better cornering is - and you'll notice on runs that a lot of elise drivers seemingly NEVER use the brakes !!! They key to elise driving is very subtle inputs. Driven like this an 18yr old can competently handle an elise. Try aggressive inputs and your all over the shop. Hence why 18yr olds should go nowhere near an elise - those little tesosterone junkies ...I tried to explain this to my 18yr old brother round donnington as he burnt my clutch out and wore the steering rack out trying to do a 'maggie simpson'
Howard Posted February 14, 2006 Author Posted February 14, 2006 oh to be 18 again knowing what I know now. But when I was 18 could not afford a pair of roller skates let alone a car. Only lifted as there was a slower vehicle in front although some distance away. A definite Blonde moment all round. There is a disused airfield nearby, think Ill nip over tonite with some cones mark out a few bends and play, as Im in Valentines day disgrace here (I forgot).
dobbo Posted February 14, 2006 Posted February 14, 2006 There is a disused airfield nearby, think Ill nip over tonite with some cones mark out a few bends and play<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Excellent - nice and damp for it as well. Care to tell us where ?
christurbo Posted February 14, 2006 Posted February 14, 2006 Thats the first thing you learn when you come from a hot hatch - never lift off on the road!!!!! Every motion must be smooth and progressive - no jerky movements!
MattyB Posted February 14, 2006 Posted February 14, 2006 ...whereas lifting mid-bend in a finely-honed Jap supercar is practically encouraged...weeee! Anyway... I wouldn't say *never* lift off. There's lifting, then there's lifting...Lifting very slightly can help to tidy your cornering line up slightly. I think I'd be slightly concerned though if I was going in a straight line at 30, even on a greasy road, and lifting off caused the Elise to spin You must have been turning slightly or been on a slight camber??
Tango190 Posted February 14, 2006 Posted February 14, 2006 ...whereas lifting mid-bend in a finely-honed Jap supercar is practically encouraged...weeee! Anyway... I wouldn't say *never* lift off. There's lifting, then there's lifting...Lifting very slightly can help to tidy your cornering line up slightly. I think I'd be slightly concerned though if I was going in a straight line at 30, even on a greasy road, and lifting off caused the Elise to spin You must have been turning slightly or been on a slight camber?? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Dare I say feather
R5LOT Posted February 14, 2006 Posted February 14, 2006 Dare I say feather <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hmmm, feather, & on Valentines day. She must've lifted off after featherin' on Valentines day Tim.
Joff135 Posted February 14, 2006 Posted February 14, 2006 oh to be 18 again knowing what I know now. But when I was 18 could not afford a pair of roller skates let alone a car. Only lifted as there was a slower vehicle in front although some distance away. A definite Blonde moment all round. There is a disused airfield nearby, think Ill nip over tonite with some cones mark out a few bends and play, as Im in Valentines day disgrace here (I forgot). <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I forgot Valentines day too...but if i went out tonight in my Lotty i would probably have come home to the locks changed and my stuff chucked in the garden!!!
GCCK Posted February 15, 2006 Posted February 15, 2006 Geo then Walshy day, for sure. Engineer out any unusual traits then play with a car that's straight. Playing around in an empty car cark is all very well but Walshy gives you a framework (plus a much bigger airfield to cut loose on). You'll derive so much confidence from the experience.
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