chorton_1 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 I understand what you are saying Zircon, but for a couple of hours of investigative labour charge (even at the thrifty Horizon rate) you could replace most the major suspects and if you are wrong then you still have the components as service items/spares. Just depends on whether you want to get stuck in / get your hands dirty for cost or interest reasons, or want minimal hassle and don't mind paying or not learning first hand. Definitely horses-for-courses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m.Woody Posted July 13, 2005 Author Share Posted July 13, 2005 I have it booked it for investigation at a mates garage tonight , he has a gubbins to read the fault codes on ECUs (hope it works on this type), will post a progress report later . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m.Woody Posted July 13, 2005 Author Share Posted July 13, 2005 His Snap-on code reader came back negitive so he thought i had imagined it untill he road tested it , he said it sounds dog rough as well . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerags Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 His Snap-on code reader came back negitive so he thought i had imagined it untill he road tested it , he said it sounds dog rough as well . <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Has he got a theory as to what is happening then ? Hope it's nothing too serious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m.Woody Posted July 14, 2005 Author Share Posted July 14, 2005 He is going to phone around his contacts and see if they have come across a simular problem "give it a service and see" is his only other idea so when my new Janspeed exhaust, decat and KnN 571 are fitted i will send it over to him . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerags Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 If it's a misfiring issue then you may as well add plugs, leads, distributor cap & rotor arm to that list. Just to be certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zircon450 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 He is going to phone around his contacts and see if they have come across a simular problem "give it a service and see" is his only other idea so when my new Janspeed exhaust, decat and KnN 571 are fitted i will send it over to him . <{POST_SNAPBACK}> We tried to help, but your not listening, good luck, bye Chorton_1 - well noted and taken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m.Woody Posted July 15, 2005 Author Share Posted July 15, 2005 We tried to help, but your not listening, good luck, bye ??? Chorton_1 - well noted and taken <{POST_SNAPBACK}> not sure the relavance of that ! I have noted everything said , my mates snap-on gizmo checked out the TPS and was ok I booked it in with him for a service (including cap&leads), he said bring it in when you have fitted your exhaust, decat and air filter , if all this fails I will have no option than to bring it on a transporter all the way from North Wales to Horizon but that will cost me £250 plus so it is saved as a last option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zircon450 Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 We tried to help, but your not listening, good luck, bye ??? Chorton_1 - well noted and taken <{POST_SNAPBACK}> not sure the relavance of that ! I have noted everything said , my mates snap-on gizmo checked out the TPS and was ok I booked it in with him for a service (including cap&leads), he said bring it in when you have fitted your exhaust, decat and air filter , if all this fails I will have no option than to bring it on a transporter all the way from North Wales to Horizon but that will cost me £250 plus so it is saved as a last option <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The relevance old son is that you don't take your car anywhere where the vehicle itself is not known properly. Your mate in the garage may be trying to help you, but if he isn't familiar with it .... What were the voltage readings on the TPS and does it give a clean change in voltage across the range from no movement to WOT ? Fitting additional parts to a poorly car (exhaust, K&N etc) is a bit naughty until the car is properly diagnosed. How about Christopher Neils garage, thats nearer to you isn't it ? Not touting for business for Horizon either, their own reputation is all that is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chorton_1 Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 He is going to phone around his contacts and see if they have come across a simular problem "give it a service and see" is his only other idea so when my new Janspeed exhaust, decat and KnN 571 are fitted i will send it over to him . <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Chorton_1 - well noted and taken <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Aw shucks......... As stated by myself and others, the problem sounds very electrical. Go through the list I put on my original post and see where you get. The first group of items is very DIY'able (just only remove one plug lead at a time when changing them so as to preserve the order they are in). If it were me, I'd buy all the 'service' items and change those (plugs, leads, dist cap, rotor arm). You can pop around the corner to your local parts place and have all this by lunch time. If you have a friend whos done it on any car before you could even have replaced them over an hours lunch break. Then check crank sensor/TPS as far as possible (e.g. visually and with a multimeter). Then buy/change coil (can be checked to a small degree with a multimeter, but can break down under load and its very hard to check - replacement is more sure fire) Then buy/change crank sensor. Then buy/change TPS. At this point it becomes a bit more serious and then professional help is probably required (if only because the items become too expensive to buy/replace without being sure). The only other thing that it may be that is a service item is a blocked fuel filter (cheap and easilly replaceable too). Its unlikely to be the pump as these usually either work properly or don't work at all. If it really were this though I'd expect more of a brief stutter before cutting out, hence why it appears electrical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m.Woody Posted July 15, 2005 Author Share Posted July 15, 2005 Thanks guys ,I am away this weekend(Mini showdown,Avon raceway) so i will have a go at it starting on monday , I will order the bits tomorow (will save them being changed when my mate does the cambelt swap) I am a DIY mechanic and have built several mini engines (and a few others ) but what i have no experiance with at all is fuel injection or maped ignition or ECUs but i guess i am going to have to learn the reason i took it to my mate first is that he is a fully trained and qualified technician (Ford , Mitsubishi) and he might have spoted something that I (diy bloke) had missed I am a fully trained and qualified Auto Body repair technician (panel beater) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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