nick_j007 Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 I have asked Paul Matty's to look at my 111r as the air con has recently stopped - typical just before my euro trip. I've been told the front clam needs to come off to address the air con correctly. Well I want it working and so it's set to be removed in a couple of weeks. I'm aware that people address the radiator when the clam is off. Mine is an '06, so would you agree that I should get it done at the same time? Looking on EP earlier. Can you advise me which one I need (they do a 3 pass as well as an upgraded alu type). http://www.eliseparts.com/products/show/84/1190/3-pass-upgraded-radiator/ or http://www.eliseparts.com/products/show/84/224/aluminium-upgraded-radiator/ Do I need a fan mounting kit? Does my 111r have one or two fans? Will I need a new fan even? Sorry I'm all questions! Oh, anything else I should address whilst it's off? Thank you. Nick
stockhome Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 Hi Nick I replaced my rad as it started to leak, it will go sooner or later. I think all Elise's have one fan, I put my fan back on again and it's fine but it's up to you. I was told the triple pass was for racing only so went for the all Ali 45mm rad
Martin R Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 As above unless you are going to do a lot of trackdays or racing. The brackets will be rusty. You can ignore it, buy a fitting kit or rub down and paint as i did.
stockhome Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 If your feeling flush people rave about the proalloy rads but they are more expensive
JonS Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 This might be of use if you want to do it yourself: http://www.midlandslotus.co.uk/forum/blog/27/entry-129-s2-elise-front-clam-removal/ mloc.co.uk/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/happy.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='^_^' /> Also, check the towing eye bracket - mine was rusted through and wouldn't have pulled a thing!
nick_j007 Posted May 10, 2012 Author Posted May 10, 2012 If your feeling flush people rave about the proalloy rads but they are more expensive Thanks. According to my 2 links there's only £6.00 difference. Might as well go for the more expensive one then? Thanks for excellent link and guide Jon. Time is my enemy presently with a busy work schedule, so over to Matty's. I'd quite like to do it tbh for the satisfaction alone. They need it off in situ for the air con though, so it kinda defeats the object if I do it at home. Nick
nick_j007 Posted May 10, 2012 Author Posted May 10, 2012 About to order the rad. Whilst I'm at it am I as well to get a new fan and hoses or do they hold up well? If it should go later on can it be replaced with cam on? Thanks!
nick_j007 Posted May 10, 2012 Author Posted May 10, 2012 Two fans on an aircon car. Ah right. Thanks! This is getting bloody expensive.
jimbo07g41 Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 Clam off again to replace the fans. Does your heater not work or just the aircon? Have they checked the gas level first? You then need to check the pressure switch, which is accessiable without clam off. You can also check the aircon relay. Upgrade the resistor pack and replace the actuators if the clam comes off. Believe me you might be back to square one if you dont in a years time.
nick_j007 Posted May 11, 2012 Author Posted May 11, 2012 Clam off again to replace the fans. Does your heater not work or just the aircon? Have they checked the gas level first? You then need to check the pressure switch, which is accessiable without clam off. You can also check the aircon relay. Upgrade the resistor pack and replace the actuators if the clam comes off. Believe me you might be back to square one if you dont in a years time. Heater's fine. Just the air con. It's been regassed twice just recently and it's losing it somewhere very quickly (Less than 12 hrs anyway). The best I can tell you is that an air con specialist that visits P. Matty's has had a look and said it's clam off. I can only trust them and go with it. I've added your points re resistor pack and actuators to my list to discuss. Many thanks all so far. Much appreciated. Nick
G Posted May 12, 2012 Posted May 12, 2012 Good move changing the rad nick, I have seen 2 plastic capped rads blow over my ownership, the last one 4 laps in at SPA :-~ I was lucky that essex motorsport were there with a spare second hand radiator (somebody is watching over me) and we spent 5 hours taking the car apart and fitting the rad. The aircon is a pain and you can split pipes, we were lucky and didnt disturb anything. Still managed to get 3 hours on track stinking of coolant lol. I asked about upgrading the hoses however I don't think they make any improvement at all and I'm sure you can change hoses at a later date without taking the clam off. I opted for a proalloy rad, and took the car to essex to have them fit it, quite an expensive part to replace due to labour taking the clam off, but worth every penny.
nick_j007 Posted May 12, 2012 Author Posted May 12, 2012 Thanks G! Ok, so two things I'd like to know for sure are: 1) Can radiator hoses be changed at a later date if needed without removing the clam? 2) Can the fans be replaced at a later date if needed without removing the clam? Oh and 3) Does the 111r have 1 or 2 fans please? This will allow me to sort my shopping cart with EP. re mounting kits and so on Thanks again. Nick Also, I seem to have two blasted sign in accounts going on here! Who do I speak to to delete everything and sign up a fresh?!
KingK_series Posted May 12, 2012 Posted May 12, 2012 I have asked Paul Matty's to look at my 111r as the air con has recently stopped - typical just before my euro trip. I've been told the front clam needs to come off to address the air con correctly. Well I want it working and so it's set to be removed in a couple of weeks. I'm aware that people address the radiator when the clam is off. Mine is an '06, so would you agree that I should get it done at the same time? Looking on EP earlier. Can you advise me which one I need (they do a 3 pass as well as an upgraded alu type). http://www.elisepart...raded-radiator/ or http://www.elisepart...raded-radiator/ Do I need a fan mounting kit? Does my 111r have one or two fans? Will I need a new fan even? Sorry I'm all questions! Oh, anything else I should address whilst it's off? Thank you. Nick the Proally rad has mountings for your old fan, which should be fine, - I think the EP rad is the Proalloy
JonS Posted May 12, 2012 Posted May 12, 2012 Also, I seem to have two blasted sign in accounts going on here! Who do I speak to to delete everything and sign up a fresh?! Send a note to Mark, only he can sort account details out i think.
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