Clio 182 Quicker Than 111s...

[MattyB]

..round the Top Gear test track?

 

Was watching an old episode where TG tested the 182 and put it on track. Time was about a second quicker than the Elise.

 

Anyone remember the Elise test? I find it hard to believe a 180bhp 1100kilo front driver it quicker than a 160bhp 800kilo Elise round a track. Maybe Malbon could comment on this?

 

I mean, the 172 that was *right* up my arse today couldn't keep up and I'm sure that 10bhp wont make that much difference...

[Elaine]

We've been questioning some of the TG times for quite a while too.

[malbon]

Where does the 160 bhp come from Matt ?

 

I don't doubt it though. My 172 Cup was probably 'as fast' as my 111s but you had to be very committed to get the most out of it and i wouldn't say understeer is much fun at all but works well when driven properly.

 

Excellent in a straightline and competent in corners but powers throught the front wheels is no fun IMHO

[Scott_Mac]

Never knock a 182 in the right hands... very quick car.

 

PLus Matty i believe it was quicker than the std car i.e. 120bhp in 800Kg vs 180bhp in 1100Kg... do the maths

[Sonya]

I've been told the 172 cup is a great car, by my mate who's trying to sell hers, anyone interested in this please contact me;

 

http://www.suttonsmotors.co.uk/_sms.htm

 

Sonya

[Greg.g]

Has'nt alot got to do with driving style and tyre selection.

 

 

 

P Zero's anyone

[Ladders]

B*llocks is it!

 

5.2 compared to 7 secs or whatever - don't think so!

 

Plus your trying to tell me a car with Mcphersion struts etc is going to go round corners better that a car with multilink wishbone susp set-up!

[malbon]

You might be surprised Ladders.

 

The cup 0-60 is is like 6.5 and to 100 is under 17 which in real life when side by side with the liz – there no more than a nats b*llock in it.

 

Like I said the elise corners far far better but you can really push the clio around corners. Im not sticking up for the thing cos I didn’t like it at all but there is no doubting its very close speedwise to the Liz.

 

No comparison in terms of driver satisfaction – 20 of you wouldn’t go for a run to Lincs for example

[Scott_Mac]

Seriously Ladders, on track they can surprise some far "bigger and better" machinery...

 

On the road it left me unispired, but on track, don't knock it.

[MattyB]

S2 111S is about 160bhp as proven by Dave at the RR session, and he bottled it before letting them take it right to the redline so it might have been a few more

 

120bhp in 800Kg vs 180bhp in 1100Kg... do the maths

 

I reckon it'd be pretty close to a standard 120 Elise, but not to a 111S!

 

And 0-100 in 17 is about what the standard Elise does - 111S should do it in about 14 seconds - and I reckon it could shift through the gears quicker too. Then you've got the inherant avantages of RWD.

 

Standard Elise vs 172/182 I'd reckon could be close - 111S should have a good lead.

[Ladders]

Quite!

 

Plus, can you take the roof off the Clio in the summer!

[Scott_Mac]

Christ don't get me wrong, i'm not saying the Clio is a good car or that i'd buy one, but they are very capable, especially on track!

[MattyB]

Yeah yeah Scott, we all know about your secret love of French car tat

[Scott_Mac]

 

Least i'm not trying to sell my Elise

[Ladders]

Seriously though, if I was going to get a sensible(ish) car, then I would definetly consider a 182 cup.

 

Although i'd prefer the V6!