Exige 'hardcore'?

[dandylion]

I've heard and read this phrase often over the years; what does it mean?

[lukevx]

Compromised.

 

Which it probably is in relation to a golf, but it still has a roof, doesn't leak much, keeps your warm, copes fine driving in traffic, isn't overly uncomfortable. It's not IMO hardcore.

 

A 2-11 or a caterham is where I would start to define 'Hardcore' in that it's so compromised to maximise its intended use that it has a serious impact in its effectiveness in use as a 'car'.

 

I.e I wouldn't fancy going Tescos in the rain in a 2-11.

 

 

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[dandylion]

Thank you, you echo my thoughts exactly.

[Steve J]

Less girly than an Elise.

 

[dandylion]

I suppose that I could wear a wig.

[Simon Mac]

My take is it's definitely more hardcore than an Elise.

 

Stock to stock comparison, an S2 for summer road use the Elise was nicer IMHO. Less bump steer, more supple, cheaper to run, and getting caught by a rain shower was not an issue.  Take it on track and clearly the Exige is better.

 

The S3 Exige is probably less hardcore in some ways than the S2 Exige. It is quieter at motorway speeds, feels more "planted", and the torque curve generally makes for less gear changes and a more relaxed over all feel. (Not to say the pace is anything less than hardcore)

 

I'm torn if I'm honest to which car I preferred doing my 3000+ mile road trips in (which I know is hardcore in both ). The S3 Exige probably pips it because of the motorway cruise ability (oh and the noise through tunnels )

[dandylion]

My take is it's definitely more hardcore than an Elise.

 

Stock to stock comparison, an S2 for summer road use the Elise was nicer IMHO. Less bump steer, more supple, cheaper to run, and getting caught by a rain shower was not an issue.  Take it on track and clearly the Exige is better.

 

The S3 Exige is probably less hardcore in some ways than the S2 Exige. It is quieter at motorway speeds, feels more "planted", and the torque curve generally makes for less gear changes and a more relaxed over all feel. (Not to say the pace is anything less than hardcore)

 

I'm torn if I'm honest to which car I preferred doing my 3000+ mile road trips in (which I know is hardcore in both ). The S3 Exige probably pips it because of the motorway cruise ability (oh and the noise through tunnels )

So, would it be fair to say that the principal difference lies with the suspension set-ups?

[Simon Mac]

Suspension and tyres with the S2 Elise vs S2 Exige (assuming you are comparing like for like engines). You could easily put a set of stiffer springs, tweak the geo, add some semi-slicks and make an Elise more "hardcore" than a stock Exige.

 

The V6's longer wheelbase does change the underlying character a little more.

[dandylion]

Hmmm......decisions, decisions!

[scatty]

It's only hardcore when you are reversing...because you can't see a bloody thing...

Hmmm......decisions, decisions!

 

It's a proper car though... Hardcore clearly refers to its fit as f*ck looks...

[Alex B]

It's only hardcore when you are reversing...because you can't see a bloody thing...

 

 

It's a proper car though... Hardcore clearly refers to its fit as f*ck looks...

Still got one then?

[Simon Mac]

It's only hardcore when you are reversing...because you can't see a bloody thing...

 

 

It's a proper car though... Hardcore clearly refers to its fit as f*ck looks...

 

Ah but to counter that, you can cover the rearview mirror with velcro, put some on the back of your phone case too, and you have a perfect phone mount. (What I did to my old S2 Exige )

 

Now with the V6 you get parking sensors, and a glass screen, so reversing is easy

[scatty]

Now with the V6 you get parking sensors, and a glass screen, so reversing is easy

Ha ha ha, that's a great idea, sadly mines been binned...

 

I think the s3 is less hardcore, to the s1 and s2 ..They will be putting in Lawrence Llewelyn Bowen tartan styled interiors next...

 

Oh, hang on.....

[Simon Mac]

... tartan styled interiors next...

 

 

 

They may take away our Alcantara, but they will never take our freedom!!!

[russelld]

So, would it be fair to say that the principal difference lies with the suspension set-ups?

Aero  makes a difference in high speed corners, that's my excuse for being slow ( and on occasions going backwards )