Thomas Harborne Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Hi all, today i went ahead and changed my tappets. Never tackled a job like this before, all went well until i started her up. Here it goes... 1. On start up she sounded fine, then, for about 3 seconds i heard a scraping noise from the cambelt assembly and a little puff of smoke (lasted for about 3 seconds) After that little scare she was running smoother than ever. 2. Had a quick look around for leaks etc, noticed the seal at the end of the cam wasn't quite sitting right so oil was leaking out. 3. Sorted the seal on the end of the cam, put everything back together, no oil leaks! BUT...BIG BUT. Like an idiot trying to rush before it went dark i forgot to connect the 2 hoses to the cam cover before starting her up. She started fine and had a slight tap but I assumed she needed a good run out to get the oil into the tappets. So before i went out i noticed the hoses, turned the engine of, connected hoses. She fired up, but sounded like she wanted to stall, revved the engine abit and now it sounds like a bag of nails but drives fine! Any suggestions other than "Go to a garage"?? < Because i think thats best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin R Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 I would check you have the cam timing set up correct. At 90 degrees before top dead centre the marks on the cam wheels should line up. The 2 hoses on the cam cover are only breathers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Harborne Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 I would check you have the cam timing set up correct. At 90 degrees before top dead centre the marks on the cam wheels should line up. The 2 hoses on the cam cover are only breathers. Would it drive fine with the timing all out though? As i said it drives fine. And the first time round it was silky smooth, i didnt mess with the time in order to sort out the leak either, i just loosened up the cam ladder and pushed seal back into position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin R Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 You must have removed the cam belt to change the tappets? Check the timing via the bottom crank pulley mark and the marks on the cam wheels. BTW empty tappets will sound like a bag of nails till they are filled with oil and solid. It make take a while? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Harborne Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 You must have removed the cam belt to change the tappets? Check the timing via the bottom crank pulley mark and the marks on the cam wheels. BTW empty tappets will sound like a bag of nails till they are filled with oil and solid. It make take a while? Sorry, yes i did take off the cambelt to change tappets. But the first time i fired her up she was smooth. 2nd time after i had sorted the leak out but forgot to connect the 2 hoses she was like a bag of nails. 2nd time i didnt touch the timing as i didnt need too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin R Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 It may have jumped a tooth depending on the tension. It would be what i would be doing anyway. If only to rule it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Harborne Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 It may have jumped a tooth depending on the tension. It would be what i would be doing anyway. If only to rule it out Ill take another look tomorrow, thanks Martin. Just hope its nothing too serious!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Harborne Posted November 5, 2015 Author Share Posted November 5, 2015 Right...I've double checked and checked agsin the timing and its spot on. I give up now so will be phoning Paul Mattys tomorrow see what they can do. I've checked everything, exhaust manifold looks fine, plugs are in correctly, ht leads in correct place. Starts fine, soon as theres a bit of temperature in the noise appears. Seems to be the left side. Opposite to timing belt assembly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin R Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Thomas, without seeing it i can only suggest the following. Buy a cheap stethoscope off ebay.Use it to track down the noise more accurately? I noticed on SELOC you say the noise does not vary with engine revs? if this is correct it is unlikely to be engine related. Mattys are good but not cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daves2111s Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Not sure what area you are in but an alternative to PM's that I can highly recommend is DRM motorsport in Kidderminster. I use them for all my servicing HGF geo. etc. Lotus and race specialists for many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Harborne Posted November 5, 2015 Author Share Posted November 5, 2015 Not too far from Kiddy, ill give them a ring tomorrow. Cheers Martin. It would be useful, but i honestly give up now ha! I'd probably make the matter worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin R Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Let us know the outcome please. It may help any one else with a similar problem in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russelld Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 No disrespect to DRM or Matty's as I'm sure they both do first class work, but another alternative would be Dan Webster HPE in Bromsgrove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Harborne Posted November 5, 2015 Author Share Posted November 5, 2015 No disrespect to DRM or Matty's as I'm sure they both do first class work, but another alternative would be Dan Webster HPE in Bromsgrove. I've been speaking to Dan about it, hes really busy at the moment so hasn't got the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr H Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 No disrespect to DRM or Matty's as I'm sure they both do first class work, but another alternative would be Dan Webster HPE in Bromsgrove. Don't take it to HPE, before you know what's happened you'll have agreed to having a Honda conversion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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