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Last Tax Disc


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Well the old rav 4 needs taxing this month do I keep it as it's the last one to be sent out .

Will it go up in value in years to come .

Eddie

 

I'm sure someone will start collecting them. I mean the permutations should give rise to some fairly extensive sets...

 

A tax disc of each band's value, 6 month and 12 month ones, ones from years gone by?  Ones from cars with nice numberplates, Perforated ones, non perforated ones, even Perforated ones still to be removed....

 

The list of saddo things you could come up with is endless :)

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I've just renewed the Exige's tax disc (online renewal) but because the current disc doesn't expire until the end of September, they won't be sending a new one :-((.  Bit sad really.  Good job I've kept every previous tax disc :-)).

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Its time the authorities scrapped the road tax full stop, if they slapped a few pence on a litre of fuel with all the other fuel tax it wouldent be noticed and everyone (unfortunately not cyclists) who uses roads in the UK (now we are still all united) would then get to pay for the priviledge; now getting off my soap box, before the secret police come to get me.

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Its time the authorities scrapped the road tax full stop, if they slapped a few pence on a litre of fuel with all the other fuel tax it wouldent be noticed and everyone (unfortunately not cyclists) who uses roads in the UK (now we are still all united) would then get to pay for the priviledge; now getting off my soap box, before the secret police come to get me.

 

 What about me in my electric car ?

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Should have Eco tax forced on you!

Around £1000 a year should be acceptable.

 

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It will come, just wait until they introduce differential electricity rates between electricity used for cars, and electricity used for your house. :(

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That's a point I hadn't thought off.

 

Groundwork is being laid. All these "free home chargers" that are being installed have built in smart metering.

 

Actually they are little more than a contactor, a GPRS smart meter, a "special" new style of socket, and some electronics to stop you plugging anything other than a car in them.

 

The modern cars now also have the reverse, so you have to plug them into one of these style sockets. (Introduced as EU law). Even if you cut the plug off a charge cable and replaced it with a standard plug, the car would refuse to charge due to the lack of the electronic signal telling it is plugged into a pukka car point.

 

I do have a portable one without the meter, but I had to pay for it, and they aren't easy to source. I can easily see these being banned in the not too distant future.

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Hybrids are definitely the future, rather than pure electric.  BMW has shown how it can be done very successfully with the i8 - a respectably quick car with everything "lit up" but still very capable of doing the silent running thing on battery power only.

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Hybrids are definitely the future, rather than pure electric. BMW has shown how it can be done very successfully with the i8 - a respectably quick car with everything "lit up" but still very capable of doing the silent running thing on battery power only.

However it's fugly.

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Agreed, but the engineering principles are sound  :-)).

 

TBH I'm not convinced. All the complexity, for what ? ...All the recurring servicing revenue of an internal combustion engine, combined with lugging round the dead weight of batteries that won't get you further than 5 miles if really driven hard.

 

Ah but it's civilised you say. So is a Caymen S. The difference in price gives you what is ultimately a 40mpg sports car (if driven like one). That's a lot of money left over to spend on fuel.

 

But, but but, It's made of carbon fibre...  Only to save money. They are massively gearing up to go CFRP in the mass market over in Germany, cost savings being a big driver.

 

I will sound like the resident bore, on here. But (and I've voted with my wallet) a Model S + an Elise, is so much better than trying to compromise everything into one car.

 

 

P.S. It's not that fugly, if you have a pure black one, and only from front on view... Otherwise yes It's nasty.

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It must be an age thing, i always thought it was females that us boys classed as pretty, obviously some on here class cars as pretty/ugly, think I'll stick to my two pints of best on a sunday dinner time before retiring for a snooze on the settee watching..............

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Its time the authorities scrapped the road tax full stop, if they slapped a few pence on a litre of fuel with all the other fuel tax it wouldent be noticed and everyone (unfortunately not cyclists) who uses roads in the UK (now we are still all united) would then get to pay for the priviledge; now getting off my soap box, before the secret police come to get me.

 

What's the beef with cyclists ?  I pay road tax for my car but cycle for my daily commute.  The family car is also taxed and is used for all long journeys with kids.

 

I actually contribute MORE per car-mile than the normal car driver.

And, as I suspect that most cyclists also have a car, so do most cyclists.

 

 

I agree, though, it's time tax was abolished.  Put it on fuel and big mileage drivers pay more, big polluters pay more, people that currently don't bother paying for tax pay more (assuming they're not also stealing the fuel), etc.  The only people to suffer are the small minority (eg my wife's parents) that currently get free tax due to having blue badge disabilities.  Even they agree, though, that it'd only make a tiny difference to them.

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